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  The Watchtower are Right About Blood...

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
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  ... but, they fail to take note of one important detail.. i believe that if we are going to have any chance of reasoning with a jw about blood, this is the place we need to begin.. don't try to convince them that it was only a dietary law.

  it wasn't, and they will never go along with it.. don't tell them that saving a life is more important than obeying a law, even a seemingly trivial one.

  they take pride in obedience.

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  Nathan Natas

  One way to check your biases is to examine the evidence, which you refuse to do, preferring instead the warm coziness of your suspicions.

  You are not a seeker of truth, you are seeking to build your own image, Nebuchadnezzar.
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  To those taking a stand and not attending the Memorial tonight

  by doubtfull1799 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i salute you.

  many of you, like me, are probably under enormous emotional pressure, whether from a lingering false sense of guilt from your indoctrination, whether from "invitations," and assumptions that you'll naturally be coming, or whether from outright emotional blackmail, even begging and pleading.

  i am thinking of you whoever you are, all of you, even though i don't know you in person.

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  Nathan Natas

  Russell thought that his job was to collect the scattered members of the "Bride of Christ," so, to his thinking, EVERYONE who joined with him was a part of that "Bride" class.

  A problem arose when the ranks of those associating with the WTB&TS rose well beyond 144,000. Slogan Engineers and Bible Apologists were assigned the task of making this reality fit in with doctrinal expectations, and voila! -- a new "class" was revealed to worldwide seekers of excuses.

  From the twisted perspective of the WTB&TS, it all fits. For fanatics it always all fits.

  I do not agree with the claim that "the rejection of blood transfusions is consistent with the rejection of the blood of Christ." Convince me.
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  The Watchtower are Right About Blood...

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ... but, they fail to take note of one important detail.. i believe that if we are going to have any chance of reasoning with a jw about blood, this is the place we need to begin.. don't try to convince them that it was only a dietary law.

  it wasn't, and they will never go along with it.. don't tell them that saving a life is more important than obeying a law, even a seemingly trivial one.

  they take pride in obedience.

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  Nathan Natas

  To which "kiss my donkey" may be a sincere answer.
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  A baffling physics question

  by FatFreek 2005 in

  1. social
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  for several weeks i've been treating myself to a hot chocolate milk (well, soymilk) before bedtime.

  some 16 oz soymilk which i heat on high in our microwave oven.

  this is just enough time where the liquid begins to bubble along the top edge.. i then take it out of the microwave and place it on my kitchen gram scale, stir it good enough to redistribute the heat, then reset the scale to zero grams.. next, i squeeze in the hershey's sytup, "special dark mildly sweet chocolate" (fat free) into the warmed soymilk till the scale reads some 30 grams.

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  Nathan Natas

  One teaspoon of water is about 5 grams (5ml), so between evaporation and what sticks to the spoon you may have the answer you seek.

  On the other hand, some of your beverage may be converting to rich, chocolate-y "DARK MATTER."

  Physics is yummy.
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  To those taking a stand and not attending the Memorial tonight

  by doubtfull1799 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i salute you.

  many of you, like me, are probably under enormous emotional pressure, whether from a lingering false sense of guilt from your indoctrination, whether from "invitations," and assumptions that you'll naturally be coming, or whether from outright emotional blackmail, even begging and pleading.

  i am thinking of you whoever you are, all of you, even though i don't know you in person.

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  Nathan Natas

  my bad, it's just Tuesday night. Sill no big deal.

  Nathan Natas10 hours ago

  "Taking a stand"?

  So much DRAMA!

  This isn't the frikkin' Great Tribulation! It's not imaginary Armageddon!

  It's NOTHING! That's ALL IT IS!

  Get a grip... breathe... relax

  You'll feel fine in the morning.

  Drama-Kings and Queens aside, this isn't risking your life like by refusing a blood transfusion.

  Why don't we give everyone a "Sturm und Drang" trophy for participation in the "Great APOSTATE STAND of 2017"?

  Everything is a circus if you're a clown.
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  To those taking a stand and not attending the Memorial tonight

  by doubtfull1799 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i salute you.

  many of you, like me, are probably under enormous emotional pressure, whether from a lingering false sense of guilt from your indoctrination, whether from "invitations," and assumptions that you'll naturally be coming, or whether from outright emotional blackmail, even begging and pleading.

  i am thinking of you whoever you are, all of you, even though i don't know you in person.

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  Nathan Natas

  "Taking a stand"?

  So much DRAMA!

  This isn't the frikkin' Great Tribulation! It's not imaginary Armageddon!

  It's MONDAY NIGHT! That's ALL IT IS!

  Get a grip... breathe... relax

  You'll feel fine in the morning.
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  The Watchtower are Right About Blood...

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ... but, they fail to take note of one important detail.. i believe that if we are going to have any chance of reasoning with a jw about blood, this is the place we need to begin.. don't try to convince them that it was only a dietary law.

  it wasn't, and they will never go along with it.. don't tell them that saving a life is more important than obeying a law, even a seemingly trivial one.

  they take pride in obedience.

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  Nathan Natas

  Don't tell me what to do, Elder Cofty, dear.
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  The Watchtower are Right About Blood...

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ... but, they fail to take note of one important detail.. i believe that if we are going to have any chance of reasoning with a jw about blood, this is the place we need to begin.. don't try to convince them that it was only a dietary law.

  it wasn't, and they will never go along with it.. don't tell them that saving a life is more important than obeying a law, even a seemingly trivial one.

  they take pride in obedience.

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  Nathan Natas

  Unpleasant is in the eye of the beholder, Cofty. Some folks here find YOU unpleasant and self-aggrandizing, not to mention unskilled in the use of language and VERY self-important, self-righteous and haughty. But as long as YOU think you are MAGNIFICENT, the hoi-polloi can go to hell.
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  What will you be doing on the evening of the 11th ?

  by Phizzy in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  mrs phizzy and myself will be eating out, sure in the knowledge we will not have jw's using the same restaurant.. i may have a cigar along with my brandy at the meal's end to celebrate my (our) freedom..

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  Nathan Natas

  wha???
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  What will you be doing on the evening of the 11th ?

  by Phizzy in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  mrs phizzy and myself will be eating out, sure in the knowledge we will not have jw's using the same restaurant.. i may have a cigar along with my brandy at the meal's end to celebrate my (our) freedom..

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  Nathan Natas

  KEEP DOING THIS IN REMEMBRANCE OF ME